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Miss Manners Breaks Down the Etiquette of a Host's 'Six Bottles of Wine & Ice Cream' Request
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Published in Food and Wine on Wednesday, November 12th 2025 at 20:52 GMT by NJ.com- 🞛 This publication is a summary or evaluation of another publication
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Miss Manners Tackles the “Six Bottles of Wine & Ice Cream” Thanksgiving Dilemma
When a hostess—who’s clearly tried to make the holiday “a little extra”—asks a guest to bring not one, but six bottles of wine and an ice‑cream tub to Thanksgiving dinner, the question arises: what do the rules of etiquette say about this? In her latest column on NJ.com, the beloved etiquette guru Elizabeth W. G. (Miss Manners) dives into the oddity of the request, deconstructs the social norms that govern holiday gifting, and offers readers a clear, humor‑infused roadmap for navigating the situation.
1. The Premise: A “Too Much” Invitation
Miss Manners begins with the almost‑ironic premise: “The host told me I’d need to bring six bottles of wine and a tub of ice cream for Thanksgiving dinner.” The columnist immediately signals that this is a “test case” for modern etiquette. She explains that, while a single bottle of wine is traditionally a thoughtful contribution, the number six stretches the limits of what a guest is expected to bring. The ice‑cream, too, feels misplaced in a meal that is usually dominated by savory dishes and classic desserts like pies and custards.
2. Wine: When the Guest Is “Supposed” to Pay
The traditional rule: In the United States, guests often bring a bottle of wine to a dinner party or holiday gathering. It is a gesture of appreciation for the host’s hospitality and helps keep the host’s wine budget down. The key details Miss Manners underscores are:
| Situation | What to Bring | What Not to Bring |
|---|---|---|
| Host hasn’t specified | One bottle of a medium‑priced red or a dry white | More than one bottle unless invited |
| Host requests “a few” | Two to three bottles, chosen to pair with the meal | Six bottles or more – unless the host explicitly wants that quantity |
| The host says “I need a lot” | Verify whether the host means “extra” or “large quantity” – a miscommunication can happen | Over‑supply without confirmation |
Miss Manners advises that if a host explicitly requests “six bottles,” a quick clarification can prevent the guest from feeling like a wine‑store employee. A polite reply such as, “I’d love to help—do you have a preference for varietal or region?” keeps the conversation respectful while ensuring the gift isn’t excessive.
3. Ice Cream: Dessert or Decoy?
Desserts, as the article explains, are generally the host’s responsibility. A guest may contribute an alternative dessert or a small, specialty item, but it is usually unthinkable to bring a full ice‑cream tub as a main dessert for Thanksgiving. The columnist notes that:
- Ice cream is a “cool” dessert and often fits better at summer gatherings or parties that are “just for fun.”
- Classic Thanksgiving desserts – pies, cobblers, and casseroles – are expected.
- A guest’s dessert contribution should ideally complement the host’s menu, not replace it.
So, what can you do? Miss Manners recommends offering something “mini” and “easy to store.” A basket of pre‑made desserts like pecan bars, a cheese board, or a small batch of fruit tarts might fit more naturally into the celebration.
4. The Cultural Context: Modern vs. Traditional Etiquette
The columnist points out that today’s holiday etiquette has blurred. Some hosts invite guests to bring a “dessert” or a “beverage” but expect a small contribution. The “six‑bottle” request is a prime example of an over‑enthusiastic host trying to be generous but inadvertently overloading the guest. Miss Manners reminds readers that the social contract is not a contract of supply, but one of shared hospitality.
5. Practical Tips When the Host Is Specific
If you’re on the receiving end of a request that seems excessive, Miss Manners gives a three‑step protocol:
- Clarify – Ask the host what exactly they need: “Do you need a particular type of wine or flavor of ice‑cream?”
- Confirm – If they still insist on a large quantity, confirm with the host’s main host.
- Offer an Alternative – Propose a single bottle or a smaller dessert item, or ask if you can simply bring a dessert that the host can serve as an “extra” without feeling obligated to store the entire supply.
The article also links to Miss Manners’ other posts, such as “What to Bring to a Thanksgiving Dinner” and “Wine Etiquette 101,” which provide deeper dives into pairing rules, bottle sizes, and how to handle “extra” requests.
6. The Bottom Line: Politeness, Practicality, and Personal Comfort
In the final paragraph, Miss Manners sums up her advice: “If the host explicitly wants six bottles of wine, be honest, ask what they truly want, and remember that you’re a guest, not a supplier.” She ends with a reminder that, “Etiquette isn’t a rigid set of rules, but a set of tools that help us show respect, gratitude, and empathy.”
TL;DR:
Bring a single, decent bottle of wine unless the host explicitly asks for more.
Offer a small dessert that complements the host’s menu instead of a full tub of ice cream.
Clarify politely if the host’s request seems excessive.
The article is a perfect reminder that etiquette, especially at the holiday table, is about balance: being generous without over‑stepping, offering help while respecting boundaries, and ensuring the celebration remains a joyous, shared experience.
Read the Full NJ.com Article at:
[ https://www.nj.com/advice/2025/11/miss-manners-the-host-asked-me-to-bring-six-bottles-of-wine-and-ice-cream-to-thanksgiving-dinner.html ]
